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Tojiro DP Gyuto Review (F-808)
What this is based on: published manufacturer specifications and retailer listings, cited on each product; the weight of professional and owner reviews across multiple retailers; and hands-on experience sharpening and cooking with knives of this type. We have not individually tested every model listed, we do not run instrumented sharpness testing, and we do not claim a test we did not run.
Quick picks
| # | Product | Best for | Score | Price |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Tojiro DP Gyuto 210mm (F-808) | First Japanese knife | 8.6 | |
| 2 |  Tojiro DP Nakiri 165mm (F-502) | First nakiri | 8.7 | |
| 3 |  King KDS Combination Whetstone #1000/#6000 | Your first stone | 8.4 |
What it is
A 210mm gyuto built as three-layer san mai: a VG-10 cutting core at 59 to 60 HRC, clad on both sides in softer 13-chrome stainless. The blade is 1.9mm at the spine above the heel and 43mm tall, weighs around 187g, and carries a Western-style laminated composite handle with a stainless bolster.
| Specification | Value |
|---|---|
| Blade length | 210mm (8.3 in) |
| Construction | San mai, 3 layers |
| Core steel | VG-10 |
| Cladding | 13-chrome stainless |
| Hardness | 59–60 HRC |
| Heel height | 43mm |
| Spine above heel | 1.9mm |
| Overall length | 339mm |
| Weight | approx. 187g |
Why the numbers matter
1.9mm at the spine is the figure to notice. A Wüsthof Classic is 3mm, a MAC MTH-80 is 2.5mm. Thinness behind the edge is what makes a knife separate a butternut squash rather than split it, and this knife is thinner than things costing several times as much.
VG-10 at 59 to 60 HRC is the same family of steel used in Shun's VG-MAX Classic line. It takes a very fine edge, holds it far longer than a 56 to 58 HRC Western knife, and — critically for a first Japanese knife — sharpens easily on an ordinary 1,000-grit stone.
Where the money was saved
- The handle. Laminated composite, plainly finished, entirely functional and not at all charming.
- The bolster edge. Some units have a slightly sharp transition where the stainless bolster meets the handle. Ten minutes with 400-grit sandpaper, rounding the edge, fixes it permanently. It is a known quirk, not a defect, and it is part of why the knife costs what it does.
- The cladding. Soft stainless that scratches readily. Purely cosmetic.
- Presentation. Nothing about this knife will impress anyone, including you.
You are going to sharpen this knife badly at least once. You are going to catch the tip on something. At this price none of that is upsetting, which means you actually use the knife and learn on it rather than protecting it. A more expensive first knife often ends up used carefully and sharpened never.
Living with one
Hand wash and dry, never a dishwasher. No bone, no frozen food, no prying. Soft board — rubber, hinoki or end-grain wood. Sheath or rack, not a loose drawer.
Buy a 1,000-grit stone at the same time. Between the two you will spend less than one mid-range knife and end up with a sharper kitchen than most people who spend three times as much.
The verdict
The correct first Japanese knife for almost everyone. It is not the best knife on this site and it is not trying to be — it is the one that delivers the most of what makes a Japanese knife worth owning, at a price where you can afford to learn.
When you outgrow it, you will not really have outgrown it. Most people who buy something nicer keep the Tojiro as the knife they hand to guests.
The picks in detail
#1 · First Japanese knife
Tojiro DP Gyuto 210mm (F-808)
The default answer to 'my first real Japanese knife'. VG-10 at around 60 HRC in a plain three-layer build, at a price that makes the inevitable first chip survivable.
What it does well
- VG-10 at 59-60 HRC takes a genuinely fine edge and holds it far longer than a German knife at 56-58
- 1.9 mm spine and 43 mm heel make it thin behind the edge without being fragile
- Cheap enough that learning to sharpen on it is not frightening
Where it gives way
- Handle finish is functional and unlovely; some units need the bolster easing with sandpaper
- Stainless cladding is soft and scratches readily
- Nothing about the fit and finish will impress anyone
Skip it if: Anyone who wants the knife to be beautiful. The handle is a workmanlike composite with a stainless bolster and nothing about it is charming.
| Blade length | 210 mm (8.3 in) |
|---|---|
| Steel | VG-10 core, 13-chrome stainless cladding (san mai) |
| Hardness | 59-60 HRC |
| Heel height | 43 mm |
| Spine at heel | 1.9 mm |
| Weight | approx. 187 g |
| Handle | Western, laminated composite wood with stainless bolster |
#2 · First nakiri
Tojiro DP Nakiri 165mm (F-502)
A flat 165 mm edge in VG-10 at 59-61 HRC for the price of a mid-range German paring knife. The obvious first nakiri.
What it does well
- 45 mm of blade height means your knuckles clear the board
- Genuinely flat edge — full contact, no accordion slices
- 1.8 mm spine falls through vegetables rather than wedging
Where it gives way
- No tip, so it cannot do fine tip work at all
- 207 g is heavier than the profile suggests
- Western handle and bolster feel dense for such a light job
Skip it if: Anyone expecting it to replace a chef's knife. A nakiri does not have a tip and cannot break down a chicken.
| Blade length | 165-170 mm |
|---|---|
| Steel | Takefu VG-10 core, three-layer |
| Hardness | 59-61 HRC |
| Heel height | 45 mm |
| Spine | 1.8 mm, consistent |
| Weight | approx. 207 g |
#3 · Your first stone
King KDS Combination Whetstone #1000/#6000
The stone almost everyone learns on. Soft, forgiving, cheap, and it tells you loudly when your angle wanders.
What it does well
- Two useful grits in one block for the price of half a premium stone
- Soft binder builds slurry readily, which gives beginners real feedback
- Almost impossible to damage a knife on it
Where it gives way
- Dishes quickly and needs flattening often
- The soak is a real commitment — you cannot sharpen on a whim
- Slow on hard powder steels like SG2
Skip it if: Impatient people. The 1000 side wants a 10-15 minute soak before every session and the clay binder dishes fast.
| Grits | #1000 / #6000, combination |
|---|---|
| Binder | Clay |
| Soaking | #1000 side: 10-15 minutes. #6000 side: splash only |
| Size | 207 x 66 x 36 mm |
| Weight | approx. 956 g |
Common questions
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