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Tojiro vs MAC

Two knives that get recommended constantly, for different reasons. The gap is narrower than the price suggests.

By Michael W. · Published September 29, 2026

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What this is based on: published manufacturer specifications and retailer listings, cited on each product; the weight of professional and owner reviews across multiple retailers; and hands-on experience sharpening and cooking with knives of this type. We have not individually tested every model listed, we do not run instrumented sharpness testing, and we do not claim a test we did not run.

Quick picks

#ProductBest forScorePrice
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A thin-bladed Japanese chef's knife slicing vegetables on a wooden board
Tojiro DP Gyuto 210mm (F-808)The default answer to 'my first real Japanese knife'. VG-10 at around 60 HRC in a plain three-layer build, at a price that makes the inevitable first chip survivable.
First Japanese knife8.6out of 10
2
A home cook chopping on a board with a thin-bladed chef's knife
MAC Professional 8" Chef's Knife with Dimples (MTH-80)The knife that wins the most side-by-side tests and asks the least of you. Thin, light, 61 HRC, and forgiving enough that a mediocre sharpening job still cuts well.
The one-knife kitchen8.8out of 10
3
Close-up of a Damascus-patterned knife blade
Shun Classic 8" Chef's Knife (DM0706)The Damascus-clad knife people actually buy. A 16-degree-per-side VG-MAX edge at 61 HRC, a D-shaped pakkawood handle, and a look that sells itself.
A knife you want to look at8.3out of 10

Scores are our own editorial judgment on the rubric published at our methodology page, weighing edge and steel, geometry, handle, value. They are not measurements and they are not user ratings.

These two get recommended more than anything else in this category, and the reasons barely overlap.

Tojiro DP 210mm and MAC MTH-80
Tojiro DP F-808MAC MTH-80
SteelVG-10 core, 13-chrome cladSub-zero tempered high-carbon Mo-V, mono
Hardness59–60 HRC61 HRC
Spine at heel1.9mm2.5mm
Heel height43mm1 7/8 in (approx. 48mm)
Weightapprox. 187g6.8 oz (approx. 193g)
Factory edgeapprox. 15° per side15° per side
HandleLaminated composite, stainless bolsterRiveted Pakkawood, integrated bolster
WarrantyStandard25 years

The cutting is closer than the price

The Tojiro is actually the thinner knife — 1.9mm at the spine against 2.5mm. Thinness behind the edge is what determines whether a blade separates a butternut squash or splits it, so on the single most important geometric measure the cheaper knife wins.

The MAC is a point harder and slightly taller at the heel, which buys a marginally longer interval between sharpenings and a little more knuckle clearance. Neither difference is dramatic.

The finish is not close

The MAC is a properly finished object: an integrated bolster, riveted Pakkawood, consistent grinds between units, and a 25-year warranty behind it. The Tojiro is functional. Some units arrive with a slightly sharp edge where the bolster meets the handle, which ten minutes with 400-grit paper fixes permanently.

Consistency matters more than it sounds when you are buying online. MAC's reputation for unit-to-unit uniformity means you are unlikely to be the person who gets an unusually thick grind.

Which to buy

  • Tojiro if this is your first Japanese knife, if you do not yet sharpen, or if the money saved would go toward a stone and a board. It is the right beginner answer and it is not a compromise on cutting.
  • MAC if you cook most days, you already know how you treat a knife, and you want an object that is pleasant to pick up as well as effective. It is the better daily driver.

The unglamorous truth

Both of these knives, kept sharp, will outperform almost any neglected knife at three times the price. If you are choosing between them and do not yet own a stone, buy the Tojiro and the stone — that combination beats either knife alone.

The verdict

Tojiro for the first Japanese knife. MAC for the one you settle on. The MAC is the better knife; the Tojiro is the better purchase for most people reading this.

The picks in detail

#1 · First Japanese knife

Tojiro DP Gyuto 210mm (F-808)

The default answer to 'my first real Japanese knife'. VG-10 at around 60 HRC in a plain three-layer build, at a price that makes the inevitable first chip survivable.

Edge & steel8.5
Geometry8.0
Handle6.0
Value9.5
8.6overall, out of 10

What it does well

  • VG-10 at 59-60 HRC takes a genuinely fine edge and holds it far longer than a German knife at 56-58
  • 1.9 mm spine and 43 mm heel make it thin behind the edge without being fragile
  • Cheap enough that learning to sharpen on it is not frightening

Where it gives way

  • Handle finish is functional and unlovely; some units need the bolster easing with sandpaper
  • Stainless cladding is soft and scratches readily
  • Nothing about the fit and finish will impress anyone

Skip it if: Anyone who wants the knife to be beautiful. The handle is a workmanlike composite with a stainless bolster and nothing about it is charming.

Published specifications for Tojiro DP Gyuto 210mm (F-808)
Blade length210 mm (8.3 in)
SteelVG-10 core, 13-chrome stainless cladding (san mai)
Hardness59-60 HRC
Heel height43 mm
Spine at heel1.9 mm
Weightapprox. 187 g
HandleWestern, laminated composite wood with stainless bolster

Specifications read from Knivesandstones — Tojiro DP3 Gyuto 210mm F-808 specifications.

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#2 · The one-knife kitchen

MAC Professional 8" Chef's Knife with Dimples (MTH-80)

The knife that wins the most side-by-side tests and asks the least of you. Thin, light, 61 HRC, and forgiving enough that a mediocre sharpening job still cuts well.

Edge & steel8.5
Geometry9.0
Handle8.0
Value7.5
8.8overall, out of 10

What it does well

  • 6.8 oz with a 2.5 mm spine — genuinely light in the hand over a long prep session
  • 15 degrees per side from the factory, which is the angle you will maintain anyway
  • 25-year warranty and a reputation for consistency unit to unit

Where it gives way

  • Costs meaningfully more than a Tojiro DP for a similar hardness
  • Mono-steel, so no cladding to protect the core if you drop it edge-first
  • The dimples do less for release than the marketing implies

Skip it if: Anyone chasing maximum edge retention. At 61 HRC in a mono-steel it will not out-last a powder-steel blade, and the dimples are cosmetic more often than useful.

Published specifications for MAC Professional 8" Chef's Knife with Dimples (MTH-80)
Blade length8 in (approx. 200 mm)
SteelSub-zero tempered high-carbon molybdenum vanadium alloy
Hardness61 HRC
Edge angle15 degrees per side (double bevel)
Blade height1 7/8 in
Spine at heel2.5 mm
Weight6.8 oz
HandleRiveted Pakkawood with integrated bolster

Specifications read from Cutlery and More — MAC Professional MTH-80 specifications.

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#3 · A knife you want to look at

Shun Classic 8" Chef's Knife (DM0706)

The Damascus-clad knife people actually buy. A 16-degree-per-side VG-MAX edge at 61 HRC, a D-shaped pakkawood handle, and a look that sells itself.

Edge & steel8.5
Geometry8.0
Handle8.5
Value6.5
8.3overall, out of 10

What it does well

  • 16 degrees per side is a sensible factory angle — acute, but not so thin it chips on a carrot
  • Handle geometry is genuinely comfortable in a pinch grip
  • Kai's warranty and free sharpening service are real, useful things

Where it gives way

  • You pay a significant premium over a MAC or Tojiro for the Damascus cladding
  • The D-shaped handle is oriented for right-handed use
  • Thin tip is easy to snap if you twist it in a squash

Skip it if: Left-handed cooks who dislike a D-shaped handle, and anyone who resents paying for 68 layers of cladding that do nothing for cutting.

Published specifications for Shun Classic 8" Chef's Knife (DM0706)
Blade length8 in
SteelVG-MAX core, 34 layers Damascus cladding each side
Hardness61 HRC
Edge angle16 degrees per side
HandleD-shaped pakkawood with stainless bolster and end cap
WarrantyLimited lifetime

Specifications read from Cutlery and More — Shun Classic Chef's Knife DM0706 specifications.

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Common questions

Are MAC knives worth more than Tojiro?

The MAC is better finished, better balanced, more consistent unit to unit, and comes with a 25-year warranty. The Tojiro is actually thinner at the spine — 1.9mm against 2.5mm — with VG-10 at 59 to 60 HRC against MAC's 61. In pure cutting terms they are very close; the MAC is the nicer object to use.

Which is thinner, Tojiro or MAC?

The Tojiro DP, at 1.9mm at the heel against the MAC MTH-80's 2.5mm. Thinness behind the edge is the main determinant of how easily a knife separates dense produce, so the Tojiro is not giving much away here at all.

Which handle is better?

The MAC, clearly. It is riveted Pakkawood with an integrated bolster and it is properly finished. Tojiro's laminated composite handle works but is plain, and some units need the bolster edge easing with sandpaper.

Which should a beginner buy?

The Tojiro, because the money saved buys a whetstone and a board — and because you will sharpen a cheap knife badly at first without minding.

Sources

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